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	<title>Comments on: Illinois Special Libraries Association Chapter Loses Funding During Banned Books Week</title>
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		<title>By: Afraid to give name</title>
		<link>http://blogs.liblime.com/open-sesame/archives/728/comment-page-1#comment-44130</link>
		<dc:creator>Afraid to give name</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Oct 2010 00:15:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do not post this with my name b/c I am afraid to -- I've watched this group of people say very mean things about those who don't agree. 

I don't think Dianne's versions are that different than the initial blog - Nicole said she had a conflict - SLA removed that conflict - thereby censoring a competitor of a firm for whom Nicole works.  Nicole is culpable in that censorship. 

Point 2: If LibLime had called SLA, and said "We have a conflict of interest with Nicole, your speaker" - and SLA removed Nicole from this event- how would everyone feel?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do not post this with my name b/c I am afraid to &#8212; I&#8217;ve watched this group of people say very mean things about those who don&#8217;t agree. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think Dianne&#8217;s versions are that different than the initial blog - Nicole said she had a conflict - SLA removed that conflict - thereby censoring a competitor of a firm for whom Nicole works.  Nicole is culpable in that censorship. </p>
<p>Point 2: If LibLime had called SLA, and said &#8220;We have a conflict of interest with Nicole, your speaker&#8221; - and SLA removed Nicole from this event- how would everyone feel?</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://blogs.liblime.com/open-sesame/archives/728/comment-page-1#comment-44112</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Oct 2010 20:44:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting that Liblime is complaining about what Liblime did.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting that Liblime is complaining about what Liblime did.</p>
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		<title>By: Carlos</title>
		<link>http://blogs.liblime.com/open-sesame/archives/728/comment-page-1#comment-44110</link>
		<dc:creator>Carlos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Oct 2010 20:15:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nicole Engard refuses to publish my comments at her website, so I am forced to respond to her here:

Nicole

If you actually READ the quote from the SLA Chapter President, it in no way condemns PTFS, or their understanding of events. In fact, an apology is offered for any confusion that was created by the Chapter in its communications with PTFS. So, you might just want to actually, y'know, READ what is said by the Chapter before you use it, and rush to malign others and their motives.

You often like to portray yourself as innocent as the driven snow, and you have all too many enablers who love the fairy tale of "poor Nicole up against sinister forces" but the truth is you have bad-mouthing LibLime, PTFS, and now Joann hauser every chance you get, since you left LibLime. Frankly, you started all this nonsense. I, personally, have heard you badmouth PTFS, and other with whom you have disagreements many months before anyone knew who they were. The truth is you started this fight and you persist in it today.

Here's hoping you grow up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nicole Engard refuses to publish my comments at her website, so I am forced to respond to her here:</p>
<p>Nicole</p>
<p>If you actually READ the quote from the SLA Chapter President, it in no way condemns PTFS, or their understanding of events. In fact, an apology is offered for any confusion that was created by the Chapter in its communications with PTFS. So, you might just want to actually, y&#8217;know, READ what is said by the Chapter before you use it, and rush to malign others and their motives.</p>
<p>You often like to portray yourself as innocent as the driven snow, and you have all too many enablers who love the fairy tale of &#8220;poor Nicole up against sinister forces&#8221; but the truth is you have bad-mouthing LibLime, PTFS, and now Joann hauser every chance you get, since you left LibLime. Frankly, you started all this nonsense. I, personally, have heard you badmouth PTFS, and other with whom you have disagreements many months before anyone knew who they were. The truth is you started this fight and you persist in it today.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s hoping you grow up.</p>
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		<title>By: david lee king</title>
		<link>http://blogs.liblime.com/open-sesame/archives/728/comment-page-1#comment-44107</link>
		<dc:creator>david lee king</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Oct 2010 19:30:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I second what Jessamyn asks - can you back up your version of events? Otherwise, I really think you owe Nicole, and probably even Bywater Solutions, an apology.

At the least.

Sheesh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I second what Jessamyn asks - can you back up your version of events? Otherwise, I really think you owe Nicole, and probably even Bywater Solutions, an apology.</p>
<p>At the least.</p>
<p>Sheesh.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Minges</title>
		<link>http://blogs.liblime.com/open-sesame/archives/728/comment-page-1#comment-44104</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim Minges</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Oct 2010 19:15:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have publicly urged members of the Koha community to refrain from personal attacks on LibLime/PTFS and its personnel in email postings and other communications. Therefore, as a current LibLime customer I am extremely disappointed to see this nasty, and apparently factually incorrect, personal attack, launched by LibLime upon a person whom I and others in the Koha community hold in high regard.

Anyone who has any understanding of the inner workings of Liblime during 2008-09 is aware that Nicole Engard was not the party responsible for efforts to exclude PTFS from KohaCon 2009.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have publicly urged members of the Koha community to refrain from personal attacks on LibLime/PTFS and its personnel in email postings and other communications. Therefore, as a current LibLime customer I am extremely disappointed to see this nasty, and apparently factually incorrect, personal attack, launched by LibLime upon a person whom I and others in the Koha community hold in high regard.</p>
<p>Anyone who has any understanding of the inner workings of Liblime during 2008-09 is aware that Nicole Engard was not the party responsible for efforts to exclude PTFS from KohaCon 2009.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Tholen</title>
		<link>http://blogs.liblime.com/open-sesame/archives/728/comment-page-1#comment-44094</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Tholen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Oct 2010 17:44:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a PTFS/Liblime client, I am embarrassed by this post. It has no place.

Please remove it and associated replies immediately.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a PTFS/Liblime client, I am embarrassed by this post. It has no place.</p>
<p>Please remove it and associated replies immediately.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Anderson</title>
		<link>http://blogs.liblime.com/open-sesame/archives/728/comment-page-1#comment-44004</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Anderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Oct 2010 22:46:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ms Engard's version of events seems quite at odds with what has been written here - http://www.web2learning.net/archives/4177

Perhaps you could illuminate me on the reasoning behind launching what seems to be a personal attack on Ms Engard</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ms Engard&#8217;s version of events seems quite at odds with what has been written here - <a href="http://www.web2learning.net/archives/4177" rel="nofollow">http://www.web2learning.net/archives/4177</a></p>
<p>Perhaps you could illuminate me on the reasoning behind launching what seems to be a personal attack on Ms Engard</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Nighswonger</title>
		<link>http://blogs.liblime.com/open-sesame/archives/728/comment-page-1#comment-43839</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Nighswonger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Oct 2010 18:57:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a very disgusting and base attack. As Jo said, it speaks volumes about the author, the company he/she works for, and any other employee of that company who would further such an attack. It shows a startling lack of character in a world where almost nothing is startling any more. I personally will have nothing more to do with PTFS or its employees until a thorough, clear recantation and apology have been offered in a public forum.

Keep up the good work Nicole. There are a lot of folks out here who appreciate your hard work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a very disgusting and base attack. As Jo said, it speaks volumes about the author, the company he/she works for, and any other employee of that company who would further such an attack. It shows a startling lack of character in a world where almost nothing is startling any more. I personally will have nothing more to do with PTFS or its employees until a thorough, clear recantation and apology have been offered in a public forum.</p>
<p>Keep up the good work Nicole. There are a lot of folks out here who appreciate your hard work.</p>
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		<title>By: jessamyn</title>
		<link>http://blogs.liblime.com/open-sesame/archives/728/comment-page-1#comment-43810</link>
		<dc:creator>jessamyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Oct 2010 15:47:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What an odd nasty post this is. Can you get anyone to back up this version of events? From what I have heard, from people I trust, this is not what happened at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What an odd nasty post this is. Can you get anyone to back up this version of events? From what I have heard, from people I trust, this is not what happened at all.</p>
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		<title>By: Owen</title>
		<link>http://blogs.liblime.com/open-sesame/archives/728/comment-page-1#comment-43718</link>
		<dc:creator>Owen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Oct 2010 01:22:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Using this venue to mount a personal attack on a well-regarded member of the Koha, open-source, and library community is inappropriate, especially considering the fact that the only time this blog was worth reading was when Nicole was writing it. PTFS, please drop the martyr complex. Either join the open source world and play by the rules like the rest of us or stop calling yourselves OSS supporters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Using this venue to mount a personal attack on a well-regarded member of the Koha, open-source, and library community is inappropriate, especially considering the fact that the only time this blog was worth reading was when Nicole was writing it. PTFS, please drop the martyr complex. Either join the open source world and play by the rules like the rest of us or stop calling yourselves OSS supporters.</p>
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